How does Social Security and Retirement Payments Affect Unemployment Benefits?

Updated : February 22nd, 2022

In tough economic times, more and more elder people might search for work past customary retirement age. In case they become jobless and do not have sufficient in the way of Social Security payments and other retirement income, they could attempt to collect unemployment benefits as a means to boost their monetary standing. For the majority, collecting both Social Security and unemployment is allowable.

Social Security is a part of the retirement plan of about every American worker. It is the publicly financed system established in 1935 that offers monthly retirement income to 48 million Americans, together with 35 million retirees, 6 million disabled adults, and 7 million orphans and widows. In case you are among the 96% of workers who are covered under Social Security, you should recognize how the system works and what you should obtain from Social Security when you stop working.

Elderly people usually can receive both Social Security Payments and unemployment benefitsYou can receive unemployment insurance benefits and social security benefits at the same time. Unemployment benefits are not counted under the Social Security yearly earnings test and thus do not have an effect on your receipt of Social Security benefits. However, the unemployment benefits sum of a person may be reduced by the receipt of a person or other retirement profits, including Social Security. You must get in touch with your state unemployment office for information on how your state applies the lessening.



In effect, Social Security works as a national income insurance program, grouping risks together and providing least income support. The system is “social” in that almost every American adds to it and in turn is entitled to obtain benefits. The system offers “security by guaranteeing retirees a minimum, inflation – adjusted profits for life, as well as monthly income for those who are unable to work and disabled, and those who have lost a parent or spouse.

Social Security was not planned to be the only assistance for anybody, but just to complement personal savings and pensions. Nevertheless for two –thirds of retirees, Social Security is the main source of income. For one-third of retirees, Social Security offers more than 90% of their income.

Fundamentals

Social Security BenefitsStates put their own criteria for unemployment benefits eligibility. Nearly all discriminate between retirement income, for example pensions, and Social Security Benefits. Regarding pensions, many states lessen unemployment benefits by a dollar for every dollar the employer has contributed to the pension. As of 2011, 43 of 50 states never decreased unemployment benefits to Social Security receivers.

Exceptions

Louisiana, Illinois, Utah, and Minnesota reduce UB by 50% for applicants who obtain Security payments. Minnesota gives up the 50% reduction if the applicant earned wage credits for Unemployment benefits eligibility while already entitled for Social Security payments. Virginia and South Dakota impose a 50% reduction for Social Security recipients, based on the amount of money in the state unemployment fund. South Dakota, for instance stops imposing reduction if the unemployment trust fund balance at the end of a calendar quarter is $30 million or more.

Considerations

Recipients of Unemployment Benefits are eligible as long as they are able to work full time, enthusiastically seeking a permanent job and available to accept any appropriate job offer. Claimants who are old enough to obtain Social Security payments must ensure they energetically pursue full-time employment. Their state might rule them not eligible if they are willing to work only certain hours or days, have no way of getting to work or have duties or other situations that restrict their time, They must be ready to offer proof of a job search, such as contacts they made, upon request by their state unemployment agency.

Effect of Social Security Payments

Social Security payments are at times treated different from retirement payments in general.

The following table indicates the shows the extent, if any, by which the weekly benefit amount is reduced due to the receipt of Social Security payments.

TABLE (EFFECT OF SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS)

Retirement Payments

FUTA wants states to lessen the weekly benefit amount of any person by the amount, assigned weekly, of any governmental or other individual, retirement or retired pay, annuity or any other alike periodic payment which depends on the previous work of such individual. This requirement applies solely to payments made under a plan contributed or maintained to by a chargeable employer or base period which influenced eligibility for or increased the sum of the retirement pay. States are allowed to lessen benefits on less than a dollar – for – dollar basis by considering the contributions made by the worker to the plan which means the FUTA requirement is restricted to 100% employer – financed pensions.) Also, the necessity applies only to those payments on a periodic basis. Consequently, the states may select from a range of options, creating a retirement pay provision.

In the year, 2008, FUTA was adjusted to forbid reductions for pensions, retirement or retired pay, annuity, or other comparable payment which is not included in the gross income of the person as it was a part of a rollover distribution.

TABLE (EFFECT OF RETIREMENT PAYMENTS)

Supplemental Unemployment Payments

A supplemental unemployment payment plan is a system in which under a contract payments are made from an employer. The reason is to provide the worker, while unemployed, with a combined UI and supplemental unemployment benefit payment amounting to a definite proportion of his weekly earnings while employed.

There are two main types of such plans:

  • Those of the Ford – General Motors type, under which the worker has no vested interest and is entitled for payments only if he is jobless by the company and
  • That under which the worker has a vested interest and many gather of he is laid off for other reasons such as permanent separation or illness.

All states apart from Puerto Rico, Mexico, South Carolina and South Dakota allow supplementation by Ford – General Motors type plans without have an effect on UI payments.

Some supplemental unemployment benefit plans of the Ford- General Motors type provide for optional payments or alternative private payments in a state in which a ruling not allowing supplementation is issued. These payments may be made in sum equal to three or four times the regular weekly private benefit after two or three weekly payments of State Unemployment insurance benefits; in lump sums when the suspension ends or the state benefits are worn out (whichever is earlier); or through alternative payment arrangements to be worked out, based on the particular supplemental unemployment benefit plan.

The Bottom Line

The consequence of Social Security payments on unemployment benefits is unlike from the consequence of Social Disability Insurance or Supplemental Security Income. In majority of the states, any form of disability payments might ban a claimant for failing to qualify for taking up a full-time job. Some states allow claimants with disabilities to obtain Unemployment Benefits only if they do not turn down jobs that can have room for their disabilities. These states are Delaware, Idaho, Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada, North Dakota, Maryland, Vermont, Tennessee and Massachusetts.



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  1. I was fired through no fault of my own in the state of NJ. I was hired to help build an apparel startup. Hired for coming from a corporate background, I would make my professional suggestions on how to improve and develop product as that type of information was always welcomed but unfortunately not utilized. During my time, I’ve repeatedly tried to help the company to avoid costly mistakes in the future when it came to producing apparel, yet my boss preferred to always “wing it” change direction and never follow any type of calendared process. Fast forward and to no surprise to me there is an issue with production and I’m informed with vague information and so as a professional, I remind the owners (again) of the proper protocol that I’ve been suggesting and believing that they finally understood this now. But the understanding was an awakening that was too late (as it seems). Therefore a week later, I was fired as a cut in finances, With no severance, I ask for a confirmation on days worked in order to claim for unemployment due to the financial reduction but then am emailed that due to my decision making that the company lost thousands of dollars and that I didn’t perform my job. I continued to apply for my claim and was denied with allegations that in addition to losing thousands of dollars that I now stole candy (of all things) from the company under footage which is false, and that I watched movies on my phone which was also a false claim. The adjudication office has reached out to me to give me 2 days to reply against the ridiculous allegations and I have replied to all her points of accusations. I had also added more information which I regret now because I was a bit emotional because of the low blows that came my way. Nevertheless, the email had been sent and I am now waiting to see the next steps.
    My question is this. In the state of NJ, what are the next steps for determination?
    Will my former employer read my comments which will only add fuel to the fire (which is true on the additional emotional writing) and then create more lies?
    Have employers gotten away with denying claims by creating false claims?
    This is not what I had expected nor planned to rebuttal in an adjudication.
    I only wanted unemployment pay while I continue to look for work.

  2. I went on medical leave in 2016. I had 2 years of approved leave with pay and benefits. Over the past 2 years, I continued on medical. In May of 2018 my employer tried to terminate for refusing to follow the company doctor’s recommendation to return to work with restrictions in a non hazardous area. I was never informed of where to report or when to report for work. I didn’t even know of the attempted termination until I didn’t receive my bi-weekly payment. I filed a greviance to get my job, pay, and benefits back and was awarded a temporary re-instatement until I had a third party doctor exam. During all of this, I reached my 2 year limit on pay and benefits. Once the 3rd party medical exam was done, the doctor sided with me that there were health reasons for not restoring me to my previous position. But he also agreed with my employer’s company doctor offer of returning to work with restrictions in a non hazardous area. My employer informed me at that time they had no jobs available for me. Since I no longer receive pay or benefits I filed for unemployment. The state said that my employer objected to my request for umeployment on the grounds that I’m weeking fulltime for them and now it has been 6 weeks pending adjudication. I receive no pay no benefits and was told I don’t have a job from my employer. How can they hold up my unemployment pay?

    1. Gil,

      Thank you for writing to us. The outcome of the adjudication depends on the paperwork/documents you submit supporting your stance. Please make sure to prepare well and argue confidently in your favor.

  3. I live in the state of Nevada and had filed for unemployment a few months back in June and was denied because of not earning enough funds in that quarter which show that I’m trying to open a claim on a previous claim considered double dipping. I was told that if I worked and made $1,200 then that would be enough to fulfill and be approved for unemployment claim for the new quarter. I did work a new job started the job as a project assistant for a plumbing company to which the hiring manager knew I had never worked in plumbing but had over 20 years in construction. All in all I worked really hard to understand the plumbing industry but I could never satisfy my supervisors expectations and the last week of me working she basically took ball work from me and kept saying she will handle it even though I would ask every hour or less if there is something that I could do, she kept denying me any work because she was frustrated that I couldn’t do the job is good as she did even though she’s been there for 30 years. I was receiving unemployment funds for the past 3 weeks and suddenly I have to wait till November 2nd for an adjudication meeting and my funds have been placed on hold until then. Can my claim be denied because I could not do the job she expected even though she hired me knowing my previous experience? What should I expect now?

    1. Brooke,

      There is a thin line. It can go against your since expectations were not met or it can also be in your favor for unreasonable demands from your supervisor. If you think you have a strong case, make sure to argue well and present all supporting paperwork.

  4. The state of Oregon UI told my spouse every claim that isn’t due to lack of work now goes through adjudication! Is that true or are they just saying that because she ‘resigned en leiu of termination’ in her trial period? She worked for the state, and didn’t want to be unable to find employment in another department.

    1. Ambrose,

      I don’t know if this is true. How can you confirm? By calling the office again and asking for a different representative to speak to.

    2. Yes, this is true, Oregon will adjudicate any “employment separation” that isn’t due to a lack of work. FYI they’ll also treat a resignation in lieu of termination as her being fired because if your wife’s employer told her “quit or you’ll be fired”, she didn’t really have much of a choice and she was going to lose her job either way.

  5. I was terminated while on Workers Comp. The employer didn’t call me, I was notified a month after the fact by the insurance carrier for the employer! And get this,,,When I opened my UI case to start benefit payments, I notated in the questionnaire that I have a lifting restriction imposed by the Doctor but that I can still physically work and I’m currently available to work….and I was denied UI benefits.
    I’m appealing.

    1. Will,

      I think you should be eligible to collect UI benefits under such circumstances. Please make sure to keep supporting documents handy to support your stance during the Appeal.

  6. I’m currently appealing an availability issue in Massachusetts. I was accepted to a local community college never enrolled and because at the time when I applied I stated I was accepted they denied me. I was laid off due to lack of work it was a temporary position on August 3, 2018. My previous employer I was with 2+years, however I did quit that job which I’m sure doesn’t help my claim, however I’ve submitted everything from my most recent employer including wages which redetermined me eligible. Now I’m appealing my availability… I’ve contacted the college to get verification letter stating I’m not enrolled nor have I ever been but due to their protocols they fought me tooth and nail to get this verification. Stating there’s nothing to send if I’ve never been so there. Last week they finally sent a certified seal enrollment letter that shows I am inactive and never enrolled or registered within that institution. I think it was to stop me from constantly contacting them. Will this help remove the availability disqualification? Also are availability cases easier to resolve?

    1. Lily,

      To offer a straightforward answer to your question, if you lost the previous job due to involuntary reasons (no fault of yours), you should be eligible to collect.

      1. So I just got my Late Appeal decision after sending in all necessary information as to why I was filing late pertaining to being offered a temporary job. The decision states DETERMINED.

        Not exactly sure what that implies. I’m assuming the worst though. Since no adjudicator ever called me. Can you please clarify?

        1. Lily,

          I suggest you call the Claims Center to find out the status. It more or less means the “Determination” process is now complete.

      2. UPDATE: I called the claims center to clarify the adjudicator’s decision they stated that it means I found eligible for the Late Appeal regarding my availability. The representative also stated that its very strange to be appealing a one party decision ( thus meaning appealing just myself.) Will I still have to continue with this hearing since my enrollment verification proves with a certified seal inactivity and no enrollment has ever been made? Are availability appeals easier to win since its not a wage or reason for termination I am appealing?

        1. Lily,

          This seems like a complicated situation. I suggest you ring up the adjudicator and consult him/her on further steps.

  7. my adjutication was removed and my case still says that im eligble and active does that mean the ruled in my favor ?

    1. Jeannette,

      That is correct. The authorities might have ruled in your favor and ruled out the need for an adjudication. Please call the office for clarification.

  8. After working at various jobs over the course of 24 years and never being fired,I finally was recently. The reason was arguing with a manager because she was unprofessional and baited me into a argument and I signed the statement she wrote against me before I left and now I wonder will the unemployment official side in my favor over me signing the statement..

    1. Jason,

      If you’re able to prove your position preferably with supporting documents, you should be able to collect UI benefits.

  9. Can you be denied unemployment after being terminated for allegedly making a customers grocery bags too heavy. Customer made a complaint that I packed her bags too heavy. When I had only put 4-6 items in each bag. This occurred while I worked for Meijer.

    1. That sounds like an awful reason to terminate employment. Please consider applying for UI benefits until you find employment. You may want to speak to the Unemployment Office in your state once before applying. Please call them.

  10. I moved to NC for a Job the employer begged for me to work for him. The job is 1 hour away. I got sick one day driving there and went to work and told the girl I was working with that I was sick and may need to go home so I call the the staffing lady and the own and told them I’m sick and I’m going home they said OK. Next day get a text saying I’m off for the next 2 think they could not find anyone to work with me see my tech went on vacation. When my tech came back from vacation they told her she will be working alone she sent me the text I was shocked because now it’s two weeks with out work I’m a fulltime worked get a w2 at the end of the year. I work the own stating what is going on why you not having me work I said I will have to file unemployment no response. Umployment told them I walked off the job when the all said I called them when I was leaving stating I was sick and they sent Umployment the call off work text they sent me its been 6 weeks and no amswer on my unemployment case help if you can

    1. Lace,

      Unemployment Insurance benefits are extended to those who lose their job due to involuntary reasons. If you think this was the case, please consider filing until you find employment. Make sure to keep supporting documents handy in case of a dispute.

  11. I filed for unemployment in florida but then moved to Georgia, after I was unable to obtain a job in Florida. I was hired at amazon in Florida but have already moved to Georgia and receiving unemployment at the time. The unemployment is now adjudicating because it picked up that I was a new hire at Amazon but I Couldn’t work for Amazon seeing how I moved out of Florida before I was hired. It has now been eight weeks of claiming with a hold on my funds what will happen next?

    1. Ernest,

      If you still remain unemployed, you should be able to continue claiming UI benefits. Since you’ve moved to Georgia, you can consider transferring your claim over to the new state.

  12. I worked a 3 yr contract with an employment firm. That contract ended unexpectantly and I filed unemployment. The employer called me with 2 jobs. one of the jobs was at the company that I just left and the company had a 6-month wait and I was unsure if I could return to the company. I expressed this to the employer and they said that they would check to see if I could return to the employer. I was trying to avoid rejection/embarrassment for myself and the employer. I was submitted for 2 jobs.

    The employer filed a protest saying I had refused work. I spoke with the adjudicator. (Who called me a day earlier than our call) It turns out two jobs that of the two jobs they said I had refused. they had submitted me for one and the other was the job aforementioned. the employer never got back in touch with me and I eventually applied for the job.

    The adjudicator told me that I would receive two letters in the mail in 5 -7 business days and told me to keep certifying.

    Any idea where this is landing. The employer did not tell the truth and I sent documented information to our phone call. The adjudicator said that they had cancellations and that was why he was calling a day early.

    Any ramifications for the employer not telling the truth.

    1. It’s the time to make a strong case for yourself. Chase the adjudicator at regular intervals and submit the required documents in your support.

  13. I finally got the courage to do this as I now get Social Security but I doubt things have changed. Years ago when I was working I had a sales job and they did all sorts of sexist crap. They would not pay the spiffs to females. They called you names over the intercom. They would break things on products ordered and picked up by customers. People knew about it but would not come forth. When you saw something illegal going on that you were not supposed to see, you got fired. The employer lied about you to the DES and they even lied to future employers so that you never had respect once you worked at their place. The so called judges as your hearings admonished you for speaking out but there was nothing to be done unless others backed you up and they were afraid for their jobs. This still goes on. For the most part it is women judges doing the bidding of male employers. Some of these women should be asking themselves questions about the lives of others they were complicit in destroying. There never was any recourse for sexual harassment and discrimination and there still is not. Have any of these female judges ever thought to require further proofs from the employers. Has any judge ever compelled the employer to proof of sales or production exceeded by the women who have been fired? That would be the most telling. When other situations arise and the female employee has been with the company for more than five years, have any of these judges had the sense to ask if the person lasted with you that long and their last evaluation was superior enough to merit a raise, why do you all of a sudden doubt the employee? There is no common sense to these horrible women and they are there as judges because of their stupidity. The system is geared to protect only the rights of the employer so don’t be down on yourselves if you find yourself a victim because if the employer loses then you have a case! DES judges are paid to destroy people.

  14. Please contact me I’m going to be homeless loose vehicle they are holding my unemployment and I don’t know why I’ve been doing everything and more I’m a cancer patient and have to get to my therapy today I can’t go cause my trucks out of gas and no money

    1. Jerome,

      Hope you get out of this situation soon. Please let us know how we can help you. This is a private forum and our help can be limited. If you’re referring to Unemployment Insurance, please call the Claims Center for further inquiry.

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